Nov 30, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P
Guild: The Gothic Embrace [Goth]
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If you could write your own paycheck...
So the unbelievable happened - the boss made an automatic payroll system and while trying to automate some of the tedium I inadvertently PWNED it!!
I was just playing around for a while and I made my payment go up 10%. That made me instantly get nervous and break out in a sweat. I tried to put it back and I couldn't. FINE they will never notice ten percent. But then it went up more and I realised I could put any amount I wanted. That's right - whatever I write and the computer banking will pay it right into my account without human intervention. You know what I'm thinking:
[ http://www.gold101.com/blog/wp-conte...d-money-21.jpg ]
So there were some weird vibes I was getting in the board meeting on Friday and they normally are all over me like a rash if I make a mistake. But they were cool.
So WTF should I do? What would you do? They will only find out when their lazy asses do a mini audit every two months but I don't know when the last one was!
Practical advice and wild fantasies are both welcomed!
Last edited by Divinitys Creature; Nov 30, 2009 at 11:24 PM // 23:24..
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Nov 30, 2009, 11:35 PM // 23:35
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy
Guild: [ban]
Profession: W/
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I suggest you look up the term embezzlement and contemplate any legal consequences your actions may have.
If you are truly concerned with correcting the error and returning the additional payment, do your best to document everything and then simply pay the extra back in person. That is what I would do in your position. It may be prudent to consult a lawyer.
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Dec 01, 2009, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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Administrator
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If this is serious you could really get yourself into a lot of crap. Be honest and sort this out asap.
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Dec 01, 2009, 12:28 AM // 00:28
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: -... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-
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Sounds like a good idea to me. They will never know...
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Dec 01, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08
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Site Legend
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Mexico is nice this time of year. There is a little bar just outside of Mexico City that has the finest Tequila you'll ever taste.
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Dec 01, 2009, 02:30 AM // 02:30
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Wark!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Florida
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
If this is serious you could really get yourself into a lot of crap. Be honest and sort this out asap.
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That. We are talking potential jail time here.
Say you've noticed an error with your pay and inform them they need to get it fixed. Getting legal advice would be helpful before you do anything.
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Dec 01, 2009, 05:14 AM // 05:14
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2009
Profession: N/
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yeah, find a nice neutral country with no extradition treaty to your country (extremely important), then have your plane ticket purchased and new foreign bank account opened BEFORE you empty them out, then get on that plane as fast as you can
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Dec 01, 2009, 08:00 AM // 08:00
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Guild: The German Order [GER]
Profession: N/
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It will take them at most two months to find out assuming they have very sloppy practices. Even without any checking, they will notice how much you cost em per month next time they plan/re-plan project because most companies have internal billing.
My manager would find out in friday for example because as he reevaluates weekly CPW of project he would see average go up by ~5k without being notified about salary increase and without personnel change.
Expect no mercy if they find out before you tell them.
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Dec 01, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2008
Guild: KaVa
Profession: N/
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Surely you already know this, but there is a 100% chance that you will get caught.
When that happens, legal actions will be taken against you and you will have to pay back whatever extra money you "accidentally" took, PLUS interest which I'm guessing will be at a pretty steep rate. You'll then lose your job.
Or no one will notice, in which case I suggest you continue swindling the company's money as they probably deserve it for being too ignorant to catch you.
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Dec 01, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Your lack of integrity and guilt astonishes me.
Tell them what you did and get it sorted out asap.
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Dec 01, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Guild: DMI
Profession: N/
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In all likelihood you will be exposed, fired, and possibly face legal consequences.
As others have said, explain your foolishness to your boss and hope that you retain your job.
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Dec 01, 2009, 03:52 PM // 15:52
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: behind you
Guild: bumble bee
Profession: E/
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Its not worth it!
Unless its like billions of dollars, you take it and run! joking off course
tell your boss you were testing the new system and has accidentally bump your salary by 10% blah blah blah, and that it was not intentional!
to answer your question, I do write my own paycheck lol, sort of, legally off course.
Last edited by pumpkin pie; Dec 01, 2009 at 03:55 PM // 15:55..
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Dec 01, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12
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Raged Out
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First off you shouldn't have posted anything about it here but now that you have you should take the logical way out and tell them.
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Dec 01, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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Tell the truth and maybe you will earn some brownie points along the way.
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"Even if the morrow is barren of promises,
nothing shall forestall my return."
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Dec 02, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Guild: Noble Order Of Valiant Angels
Profession: Me/
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Do the right thing: Turn yourself in (or, at least tell them what happened).
/echo
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Dec 02, 2009, 12:33 AM // 00:33
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P
Guild: The Gothic Embrace [Goth]
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OK, I think I realised there was only one way out of this. I just submitted it like a bug report on email and copied all the directors and phrased it in a way that it was to prevent anyone taking advantage of it and some screenshots of me trying to put it back to what it should have been.
Fingers crossed they won't kill me.
[ http://exmssear.org/amira/files/2009...ed-fingers.jpg ]
Thanks for your immediate and very good advice everyone. Snow Bunny, you broke the tension and made me actually LOL. If I was so unethical I wouldn't have asked advice. I know what you mean though I guess. Sometimes you get in trouble when you put something back...
Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
I saw office space! milton, is that you? did you get back your swingline stapler?
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Err someone stole my stapler but I got it back and hid hers
Last edited by Divinitys Creature; Dec 02, 2009 at 12:42 AM // 00:42..
Reason: spelling
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Dec 02, 2009, 02:23 AM // 02:23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California
Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare]
Profession: W/Mo
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I would pay .. myself one MILLION BIZILLON DOLLARS!!!
lol kidding
well Divinitys, hope your boss won't do anything harsh on you. I mean yea you did increase your pay-raise by 10%. But since you're being honest, you shouldn't be fire for it. Hell, tell them you'll give back the 10% and add in some interest to see if it please them.
Well, worst case you can be like this employee.
http://www.ocala.com/article/2009102...ng-after-thief
Different story but some companies LOVES sticking to policy and I'm sure that embezzlement and account fraud isn't on any companies' to-do list. Good luck!
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Dec 02, 2009, 09:15 AM // 09:15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Blighty
Guild: The Legion of the Blue Blade
Profession: R/Mo
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I think you did the right thing, its not really worth the risk. Be assured they would right royally bum fudge you if they found out. Submitting a bug report and documenting what happened is probably the right way to go about it aswell.
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Dec 02, 2009, 01:48 PM // 13:48
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Site Legend
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You'll be fine. Errors happen
Worst case scenario - official reprimand
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